Spare the rod and spoil the child?

Today spanking children at home is increasingly frowned upon, and in many countries a teacher that uses corporal punishment will most likely lose his job or even end up in court.
The result seems to be a generation of children that are behaving increasingly badly, and that totally lack good manners.
I was caned at school on both the hands and the bottom, as were many of my class mates and none of us hated our teachers. The first time that we carried out some forbidden act we were given a minor punishment such as writing out the same line 100 times, and we often received a warning at the same time that if we did it again that we would be sent to the headmaster’s office which meant we would be caned.
My father spanked me a few times but only when he considered that I’d done something that really warranted the punishment. Examples might be, deliberately disobeying him, saying something bad about my mother, bringing home an air-gun once and a flick-knife once.
I never hated my father!
Today, children that misbehave are now frequently given counseling and if that doesn’t help then they get prescribed Ritalin (or some other medication) in spite of warnings such as.
“Ritalin may have subtle impacts on cognitive and intellectual processes. Both parents and researchers have noticed that children taking Ritalin sometimes answer questions in ways that seem overly compliant or narrow, suggesting the drug might restrict creative thinking. One study found hyperactive children taking Ritalin offered less varied answers to open-ended questions”.
So what do you think?
Do you think that corporal punishment, or drugs and therapy are the answer to children that behave badly?

I don’t know if corporal punishment helped but there was certainly more respect a generation ago.
I’m sick of seeing fat kids on buses and trains slouching in seats whilst they’re worn out looking mothers are left standing.
A generation ago a man on the bus would have taken one of the kids by the ear and lifting him up by it would have said, “Stand up young man and let your mother sit down”.
Why is ADHD so prevalent now?
It is because the parents of the “sufferer” get disability living allowance benefits!
You should see the number of parents at school who kick up s*** when their child is assessed as clear of ADHD and therefore loose money.
One I know of feeds her brood nothing but Haribos and M’n'Ms a week before they are due to see the shrink.
Come the day they are bouncing off the walls!
Huge amounts of money are being wasted each year on prescriptions for powerful mind-altering drugs given to children with the fictional complaint called ADHD.
This should be stopped immediately, as should the large payments made to many of the families involved.
There is no objective diagnosis for ‘ADHD’, and it’s a manufactured illness like road-rage that was invented by psychiatrists and drug companies.
Its alleged ‘symptoms’ are not felt by the supposed patients but by exasperated adults who are trying to cope with boys (it’s mainly boys) who get too little exercise and sleep and lack authority. They watch too much TV, play too many computer games, eat and drink too much junk food and are then forced to endure school lessons that are incredibly boring, that are conducted by teachers who don’t understand small boys or very often even the subject that they’re supposed to be teaching.
I’m amazed that the ‘Bad Science’ gurus haven’t yet turned their attention to this money making con.
Well I just checked lots sites trying to find something positive about Ritalin and only found very negative stuff about it.
Seems like it’s very bad news and needs to be avoided like the plague!
Even people that say that it helps them complain of horrible side effects.
Well the Bible is quite clear about this.
Prov 13:24: “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)”.
Prov 19:18: “Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying”.
Prov 22:15: “Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him”.
Prov 23:13: “Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die”.
Prov 23:14: “Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)”.
Prov 29:15: “The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame”.
And Dennis Finnan of “The World, the Word & You!”, radio program stated.
“Today with the abandonment of discipline encouraged by the elite secular thinkers, the rise in juvenile delinquency has exploded. The American Bar Association reports that juvenile crime involving criminal violence and death by guns and drugs, has all but clogged the nation’s courts with children involved, as young as twelve years of age.”
“What has caused this massive rebellion to authority, and out of control rage of children? The answer is, THE ABSENCE OF LOVING CORPORAL DISCIPLINE BY THEIR PARENTS DURING THE FORMATIVE YEARS. Many a life of sin and shame is simply the outgrowth of a life without any discipline, without any rebuke and without reproof. Now I realize, that there are many voices out there with all kinds of advice. But let me take you to the place of tried wisdom and knowledge, where you won’t go wrong if you follow its advice. That place of authority and wisdom is the Bible my friend, for God’s Word has never proven itself wrong, and has always blessed those who followed its teaching regarding rearing children. …”
“Today we have a generation of humanity that rejects God and His word as the basis of life, and has established its own wisdom in place of it. Secular humanism, now the official philosophy and religion of our schools, media and courts today has had a generation to raise children and its results are disastrous. Yet, God’s Word still stands as the tried and true way to rear children. This, of course, includes the mandatory use of parental discipline that includes spanking a child.”
I just read an article about an attempt to bring back the use of corporal punishment in Memphis classrooms.
“Teachers, for several years now, have been increasingly agitated by the lack of classroom discipline”, said School Board Commissioner Kenneth Whalum. “Its out of hand, man”.
Too many liberal hand wringers have created a Lord of the Flies society!
In the UK, adults are treated like children and children are treated like adults.
Just today, a seven year old in my school attacked a member of staff who was trying to stop from biting a class mate.
Second time this week he has done this.
The head handwringers says that violence is his way of communicating and we should learn to accommodate him.
So now we are advertising for either a native “thug” speaker or someone who is prepared to take lessons in it.
Lay as much as a finger on a child and your career could be over.
Things are supposedly changing, but we are up against the compensation culture where parents, with the help of low life ambulance chasing “lawyers” can get substantial payments if their little prince suffers so much as a stern look.
Some kids are even being coached by their parent (s) on what sort of payment they can expect if sir says or does whatever.
I was also caned at school on a regular basis, being taught in the main by nuns, bloody illiterate psychopaths!
They took “suffer little children etc., literally.
It wasn’t so much the pain I remember it was the humiliation of having the beating administered in front of the whole school.
No one wants to see those days back again, but things have swung too far in the other direction these days.
Children who misbehave are more often “rewarded” for their behaviour by playing games on the head’s PC or even taken on trips at the expense of the kids who don’t kick off.
This cheers up the ones who do behave, no end!
We live in a looking glass world today where the bad are rewarded and the good are punished.
My father used to beat the c*** out of us kids. Now he’s 88, lives alone, and wonders why his kids never call or visit. Need I say that we all hate him?
But surely there’s a difference between “beating the c*** out of” and spanking.
If a small child keeps doing something that’s dangerous to him or her and you’ve warned him/her several times; each time more sternly, but the child continues to do it.
Surely the next step up is a smack or several on the bottom, whilst saying, “Don’t do that again”.
My father used a belt on me maybe four times, and my mother use a hair brush on the back of my legs a couple of times and I never hated them because of it.
The times that they did it were for things such as bringing a flick-knife or an air-gun into the house or for talking to a kid who was a known juvenile delinquent.
One of my worst childhood memories is the aftermath of when I didn’t run downstairs promptly to greet him when he came home from work.
“If a small child keeps doing something that’s dangerous to him or her and you’ve warned him/her several times; each time more sternly, but the child continues to do it.
Surely the next step up is a smack or several on the bottom, whilst saying, “Don’t do that again”.”
I guess not running downstairs to hug him when I was 7 was dangerous thing for me to do.
BTW, my father is a Christian, too.
This atheist will NEVER hit her own helpless children.
I feel your pain, but this issue is not simple.
What if a person lives near a main road and a their child keeps opening the door and walking into the road.
They have tried scolding the child numerous times but it hasn’t helped.
What should they do?
A spanking on the tussie will leave a stronger mental imprint and maybe save the child from getting run over.
Maybe the guideline should be “never hit a child in anger”.